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England Bat Again...SHOCK!!!!
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:21 am
by mrgnu1958
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:23 am
by thewilsonboy
Yeh i was thinking the same thing!
Our bowlers were class in the 1st innings. If we lose this...
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:27 am
by Perryashburtongroves
It's because the conditions at the moment favour batting, Lords has a record of producing draws even after teams have followed on and there's a big hope that the pitch will deteriorate over the next day or so leaving us with a decent/good chance of bowling them out to win.
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:33 am
by mrgnu1958
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:35 am
by Sutch
Cricket fails
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:37 am
by mrgnu1958
look im not a great lover of watching it,but theres sod all else on right now.
Gimme Babestation any day..But they aint on till 9pm.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:44 am
by Sutch
I know what you mean ****, Paul Raymond TV in the day usually has an awesome bird on there
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:18 pm
by g88ner
Perryashburtongroves wrote:It's because the conditions at the moment favour batting, Lords has a record of producing draws even after teams have followed on and there's a big hope that the pitch will deteriorate over the next day or so leaving us with a decent/good chance of bowling them out to win.
Problem is, when do England now declare??
You want to leave enough time to bowl the Aussies out, yet post a score that they can't possibly reach...
It's a tactic I don't like, as there's too many unknown's and variables... with the lead we've got I would rather bowl 'em out again and then chase the needed score in the day (or 2) remaining.
That way, you're always in charge of the game.
Then again, I'm not England captain, and they obviously feel it's a good day for batting... so fair enough. Now beat the Aussies!
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:12 pm
by marcengels
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:14 pm
by marcengels
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:19 pm
by marcengels
g88ner wrote: Problem is, when do England now declare??
You want to leave enough time to bowl the Aussies out, yet post a score that they can't possibly reach...
It's a tactic I don't like, as there's too many unknown's and variables... with the lead we've got I would rather bowl 'em out again and then chase the needed score in the day (or 2) remaining.
That way, you're always in charge of the game.
Then again, I'm not England captain, and they obviously feel it's a good day for batting... so fair enough. Now beat the Aussies!
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I agree. I see why he went back in -the conditions, perhaps Flintoff not quite right, bat Australia out of the game....but it's this last one that worries me and as you say g88ner, if England have the luxury to declare then when?
It's important to think of the pyschological effect on Australia of following-on . By batting again, it looks a litle defensive to me (batting aus out of the game). As it is, England may find themselves with a lead in the 400's - then it could come down to time/weather.
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:44 pm
by SammyDroppedHisShorts
Declare at 551 ahead you watch
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:06 pm
by Galasso
I guess they will declare tonight...have to see if the weather holds up. If there's cloud cover then great for England.
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:35 pm
by SammyDroppedHisShorts
Galasso wrote:I guess they will declare tonight...have to see if the weather holds up. If there's cloud cover then great for England.
They will bat tomorrow morning i am certain...551 is the next magic number...now that Collinwood is out there is no need to see if he can get his ton. However, with Freddie on 30 i think Strauss will give him 30 mins to get that final half century. England will bat tomorrow morning....im certain
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:54 pm
by flash gunner
I agreed with batting again the team batting 4th will struggle and the Aussies are a good batting team even after their bad 1st innings. we need all the help from the pitch as possible so making them bat 4th is a good idea IMO